WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.680 Surprise everyone, 00:00:09.680 --> 00:00:13.920 we're back. It's three by two time and it's kind of a hiatus but, 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:17.040 not really but we,'re not following the schedule 'cause this should just be fun, 00:00:17.040 --> 00:00:22.239 right? Yeah. We're not holding ourselves to any uh kind of strict recording here. 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:25.200 It's just gonna it's gonna happen when it happens and we're gonna like it. 00:00:25.520 --> 00:00:26.719 And what are you munching on today, 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.280 Jason? I can see a snack Fruit snacks. 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:34.400 Fruit snacks. Is that like fruit that you're calling a snack or it's actually like a branded fruit snack? 00:00:34.400 --> 00:00:36.560 That's what it's called. Like kids' food. 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:37.759 Oh like lollies. 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.119 Basically, yeah. Gummy, 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:40.159 gummy things. Yeah. 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.799 It's the it's the official food of podcasting. 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:44.560 Fantastic. Well I've I didn't know. 00:00:44.639 --> 00:00:47.759 Because it doesn't crunch and make a loud noise in the microphone. 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:48.880 That's a good idea. 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:50.319 Yeah. Okay. Now I know. 00:00:50.319 --> 00:00:51.840 Because I was just like, what is he eating? 00:00:51.840 --> 00:01:00.319 This is nice. And there's all these like American you can go to like service stations or convenience shops over here that have like American stuff and you'll go there and it's just an American shop. 00:01:00.319 --> 00:01:01.439 And I'm like, wow, okay, 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:03.279 I don't know what these things are. 00:01:03.279 --> 00:01:06.639 So maybe I'll look for American fruit snacks next time I go to look. 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:08.400 You should. You absolutely should. 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.480 I highly recommend it. 00:01:10.559 --> 00:01:13.839 All right. So for people who haven't listened before or they've just joined in, 00:01:13.839 --> 00:01:17.519 the idea is that we're kinda like the audio commentary for photos. 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:19.680 So I've chosen three photos. 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:21.279 Jason, you've chosen three photos. 00:01:21.279 --> 00:01:23.440 There are two of us. That makes it three by two. 00:01:23.440 --> 00:01:26.080 And you can imagine as we describe what we like about them. 00:01:26.080 --> 00:01:28.639 Or you can visit them in the links and show notes. 00:01:28.639 --> 00:01:30.160 Whatever. Yeah. 00:01:30.160 --> 00:01:31.760 All right, so I'll kick it off. 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.080 Um I think this is quite glass heavy today, 00:01:34.080 --> 00:01:36.239 which is easy for navigation. 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:57.919 The first photo that I spotted was by Shane and it's called Summer Blues and it was taken with the Rico GR3X and what really stood out to me about this it's this portrait orientation photo of these two women sitting in their lovely kind of colourful floral shirts or blouses on these red portable chairs, 00:01:57.919 --> 00:01:59.120 looking out over the sea, 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.360 sitting under this blue and white striped umbrella. 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:02.879 I found the colour quite striking. 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:08.160 You look out over the ocean and it's like the ocean almost blends into the s the partly cloudy sky. 00:02:08.160 --> 00:02:15.600 And I just thought this was a very kind of maybe idyllic do you think it's somewhere in Europe or the UK or something with this rocky, 00:02:15.600 --> 00:02:23.119 pebbly beach and they're just sitting out in this lovely attire that I would not associate with Australian beach weather. 00:02:23.119 --> 00:02:26.240 Do you know what I mean? Like you're adding board shorts or a bikini or something, 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:31.759 but they're sitting down on the pebbly beach to gaze at the ocean and one of them seems to be looking through binoculars. 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:39.039 Australia. Just gonna just gonna take a wild guess right now. 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:42.160 Uh when I initially saw this when you sent it, 00:02:42.160 --> 00:02:55.039 I was curious what um VHS cassette cover you had removed the title from because it looks absolutely perfect to be a video cassette cover. 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:56.960 Because the top is like you said, 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:03.119 the sky, but it's it you could easily put a title of a movie right at the top of this with them sitting in the chairs. 00:03:03.119 --> 00:03:04.800 Yeah. From top to bottom, 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:10.160 the way the water and the sky are the exact same two tones, 00:03:10.160 --> 00:03:12.880 but in completely different textures is super cool. 00:03:12.880 --> 00:03:16.559 And they kind of diverge right where the umbrella stops, 00:03:16.559 --> 00:03:18.720 which is nice uh lining up there. 00:03:18.720 --> 00:03:23.199 You have the perfect uh edge of the coast there that's left to right. 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:27.199 And then like you mentioned the the pebbles and the the they're like river rocks, 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:28.960 but this is clearly not a river. 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:30.479 If this is a river, it's a very, 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:31.679 very wide river. 00:03:31.679 --> 00:03:32.880 Um and then d yeah, 00:03:32.880 --> 00:03:40.399 there's the two the two uh people sitting there in the middle in the red chairs give a nice pop of red against all of the the white and the blue. 00:03:40.399 --> 00:03:43.759 And then they're what they're wearing almost kind of goes with it as well. 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.399 They're kind of wearing white and blue as well. 00:03:46.399 --> 00:03:49.119 So outside of it being the cover of a movie, 00:03:49.119 --> 00:03:50.800 which it easily could be, 00:03:50.800 --> 00:04:00.800 just really cool with the the way that the textures go from the the warm rocks to the cool water to the cool sky that is then in t two different textures. 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.240 I I really appreciate that. 00:04:02.559 --> 00:04:04.080 Yeah, and I know you're not supposed to, 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:05.520 and I don't, just for the record, 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:11.199 I don't do this, but you're not supposed to take things like rocks or pebbles or any natural features from where you visit. 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:12.399 Ideally, they should stay there, 00:04:12.399 --> 00:04:16.320 but I just know that I would go to this place and just want to touch all of those smooth rocks. 00:04:16.320 --> 00:04:17.679 Or like be tempted to take one. 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:21.119 Hey, if one or two ends up in a pocket here or there, 00:04:21.119 --> 00:04:23.679 uh like how are you gonna you can't stop that? 00:04:23.679 --> 00:04:24.959 That just that happens sometimes. 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:26.640 Yeah, they don't have security on the beach, 00:04:26.640 --> 00:04:27.760 do they? No. No. 00:04:27.760 --> 00:04:30.399 They don't there's not individual air tags on every rock. 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.079 I hope. That's a good idea. 00:04:32.239 --> 00:04:33.279 Individual air tags, 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.679 don't be wrong. That's very e-waste heavy beach. 00:04:35.679 --> 00:04:38.160 That's a lot of that's a lot of button batteries. 00:04:38.559 --> 00:04:40.000 Anyway, your photo now, 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.519 I think. My first one here from Bianca, 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.200 Infinite Channels.. 00:04:45.200 --> 00:04:47.920 Wow And if you kind of squint at it, 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:53.200 it almost looks like it's a macro photo of like camouflage material. 00:04:53.200 --> 00:04:56.239 Yeah. So if you got real close up to some camouflage, 00:04:56.239 --> 00:05:14.320 you'd think that's what it was, but it's not it's uh I'm assuming aerial photo from wood I don't know probably a plane maybe helicopter not sure maybe they're just floating that would be pretty cool but it's a it goes from from bottom to top it's it's in focus I,'d say closer to the bottom and kind of fades off out to the distance. 00:05:14.320 --> 00:05:20.559 It has kind of a nice mist or fog almost to it as you go further and further out. 00:05:20.559 --> 00:05:22.640 It's very desaturated, 00:05:22.640 --> 00:05:28.959 which I really like. I feel like you could have probably really jacked up the the green here and had it be very vibrant, 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.480 but it it has a much, 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.239 I think, cooler feel. 00:05:32.239 --> 00:05:35.839 I guess literally it's a cooler feel because it's uh blue. 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:44.320 Um but the the way that the shapes are just so organic is really nice where they don't they almost look like puzzle pieces but they don't quite fit together because it's nature. 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:45.359 So there you go. 00:05:45.359 --> 00:05:50.959 But it is just a it's a pleasing photo to look at and it's I find it to be very calming. 00:05:51.119 --> 00:05:52.399 Yeah, it's really cool. 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.600 I love it. And what you said about the lack of saturation, 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:01.839 I wonder you know when you're on a plane and you just want to take endless photos of the cool landscapes that go past. 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.799 I'm assuming this was maybe through a plain window, 00:06:04.799 --> 00:06:06.399 do you think? Maybe it's that effect of the thing. 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.040 Maybe. And I'm not saying that to have a dig at the photo. 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:14.239 I'm actually quite pleased that if that's what it is, 00:06:14.239 --> 00:06:17.519 Bianca hasn't seemingly tried to fix it. 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:20.399 You know when that's just an unfortunate reality of the photo, 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:22.399 that's the medium between you and the scene, 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:27.040 and you kinda want to pump up the saturation and you start doing things and it looks unnatural. 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.079 I think she's just accepted whatever the circumstances were that day, 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.399 and it's a cool photo. Like it lends to the character. 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.839 So I like the fact that it's a little bit washed out, 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.320 whether that's haze or an aeroplane window. 00:06:38.320 --> 00:06:40.799 You know, it's it's funny you brought that up about that being a filter. 00:06:40.799 --> 00:06:47.119 I'm surprised that's not ever been a filter in you know the the million different phone apps that have been out. 00:06:47.119 --> 00:06:51.040 I've never seen a like airplane window filter. 00:06:51.359 --> 00:06:53.440 Maybe that's my call maybe that's my next thing. 00:06:53.440 --> 00:06:54.640 Do you want the scratches. Yeah, 00:06:54.640 --> 00:06:57.519 it's got the little the little hairline cracks that you're kind of nervous about, 00:06:57.519 --> 00:06:59.279 but you're like, I guess that's fine. 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:02.720 It could be here's the Airbus 380 window. 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.320 Here's the Boeing 777 window. 00:07:06.320 --> 00:07:08.959 I reckon this is going to be bigger than Fuji film simulations. 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:10.959 People are like, oh, I want the Boeing. 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.920 Oh, okay. Well af directly after this, 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.200 I will be creating a new um photo filter pack. 00:07:17.200 --> 00:07:19.200 Look for it here on three by two. 00:07:19.359 --> 00:07:23.200 And you can start your new career as a YouTube influencer flogging them online and saying just, 00:07:23.200 --> 00:07:26.799 you know, and you can point to the corner and tell them where to where to get their filters. 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.239 Get my filter pack. And then I'll also have I'll have a course available as well, 00:07:30.239 --> 00:07:31.760 don't worry. Oh, fantastic. 00:07:31.760 --> 00:07:34.320 Will that be on LinkedIn Learning or Yes. 00:07:34.320 --> 00:07:36.559 All of all of the above. 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.920 I know we don't normally tag or link to our own photos, 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.799 but what you were talking about hairline cracks or the scratches. 00:07:42.799 --> 00:07:48.399 I remember I took a photo with my OM system TG seven with its little macro or microscopic mode. 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.239 Exactly that on an aeroplane window. 00:07:50.239 --> 00:07:51.679 And as much as I thought it was cool, 00:07:51.679 --> 00:07:57.839 I kind of instantly regretted it because then I felt a little bit less secure about the integrity of the plane that I was on. 00:07:58.239 --> 00:08:00.559 So maybe I'll include that as a separate link. 00:08:00.559 --> 00:08:02.160 Yeah, yeah. I survived. 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:04.239 Okay, my next one. 00:08:04.239 --> 00:08:06.559 Uh this one's by Yoshito, 00:08:06.559 --> 00:08:10.959 and the caption is I think I could touch a bit of old HK's mood, 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.359 HK referring to Hong Kong. 00:08:13.359 --> 00:08:16.160 I want to take more time to walk around this area soon, 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:21.920 and it says, I might be mispronouncing this at Yaamate Wholesale Fruit Market in Hong Kong. 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:23.920 Second with the Leica SL3, 00:08:24.239 --> 00:08:25.679 18 millimeters. 00:08:25.679 --> 00:08:28.720 It is, I just saw this photo and thought, 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.279 wow, this is like visual overload. 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:36.640 So to explain a very not messy but certainly very busy scene to people listening, 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:44.000 you've got on the right hand side this some sort of freeway or motorway overpass, 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:49.599 interlocking kind of flyover and ramp up to the right towards skyscrapers in the distance, 00:08:49.599 --> 00:09:04.239 and then dominated on the left hand side of the photo on on this diagonal line of like railing and uh a road sign is just chaotic roofs do you think I don't know if this is like the roof of the markets and things that lie beneath, 00:09:04.239 --> 00:09:09.679 um, and there's this haphazard like pallets and wiring and tarps, 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.679 and then there's buildings at the top left corner. 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:22.000 It's just you can just see how older kind of maybe heritage areas or traditional marketplaces have been shoved up against new developments and freeways. 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.679 It's like old meets new. 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:31.919 And there's certainly elements of places in Australia that I can think of where you can see that they've just carved a freeway or a motorway overpass through an old area. 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.599 But this has a much older feeling to it in Hong Kong. 00:09:35.599 --> 00:09:36.799 What do you reckon about this? 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:38.719 It's at nighttime I should mention as well. 00:09:38.719 --> 00:09:41.280 Yeah, I think the nighttime adds a lot to it as well. 00:09:41.520 --> 00:09:44.559 Um it is chaotic is is correct. 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.159 Yeah, it's uh I like that it's not half and half, 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:49.919 I think is the first thing that comes to mind. 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:57.039 It's like two thirds this kind of handmade older style of buildings and also very low, 00:09:57.039 --> 00:10:04.799 I think is important. Like things were not built up very high because they are very much person built by hand out of sort of what's available, 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.320 versus the you know, 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:12.000 modern mechanized skyscrapers of the future in the background that are you know a million feet tall. 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.400 And then you have the airport kind of off-ramp, 00:10:14.400 --> 00:10:15.520 like you were talking about, 00:10:15.520 --> 00:10:16.799 going off to the right, 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.760 which is super brightly lit, 00:10:19.760 --> 00:10:21.599 very modern, 00:10:21.599 --> 00:10:22.960 all new materials, 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.799 huge trucks going through. 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:30.400 Contrasted by this I I I'm gonna assume you're you're correct here with this being the the roofs of the market, 00:10:30.400 --> 00:10:46.000 if we kinda went down below we would see all the different little stalls um which a truck like that would not fit anywhere in a place like this you could probably barely squeeze yourself down some of these market ways so this the contrast there of the two is super powerful. 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.080 And again, I like that there's this, 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:52.159 even though the big new is bigger and newer, 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:53.359 the way it's framed, 00:10:53.359 --> 00:11:01.679 it's it's showing that kind of the the old Hong Kong here is is like holding strong amongst everything around it, 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.760 even though it's being completely engulfed by everything that's going on around it. 00:11:05.760 --> 00:11:07.679 Yeah, it's almost like compartmentalized. 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.840 It reminded me of um and I like what you say about the fact that it's not the whole picture. 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.880 It's almost like it's two-thirds of the left, 00:11:14.880 --> 00:11:18.239 but it has that nice diagonal leading line to those buildings in the distance. 00:11:18.239 --> 00:11:19.840 It feels really well composed. 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:23.039 It's really cool. But it reminds me like if you looked down, 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.159 uh, just flat right down bird's eye view at it. 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:27.919 You know that um Mac app, 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:29.039 Grand Perspective? 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:35.520 Yeah. The thing that scans your your drive and shows all the little compartmentalized bits of what's big and small video. 00:11:35.520 --> 00:11:44.719 It's almost like if we look down you would just see these patches of rectangles and squares of what Hong Kong would be made of and this is this file and that's this file and that that's that area. 00:11:44.719 --> 00:11:47.760 It's just the way it's just absolutely buttered up against the other thing. 00:11:47.760 --> 00:11:49.679 There's no buffer here other than a footpath. 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.000 Yeah. Oh that' thats's exactly what it yeah. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:57.760 That is it's it's like it's basically SimCity where you're kind of trying to fit all the different pieces together. 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:02.320 It's like, well, I guess the airport's going right here 'cause that's the only space we have left. 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:03.440 Yeah, phenomenal. 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.960 Anyway, have you ever been to a place like this than you can remember in your travels? 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:08.000 Yeah? I have, 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:13.599 yes. Trying to think of where would be the closest probably in Taiwan, 00:12:13.599 --> 00:12:23.520 I think. We went to a night market that was very much just surrounded by everything and then there was just all these little tiny stalls kind of similar to this. 00:12:23.520 --> 00:12:27.119 Wow, okay, yeah, because I mean I've been to Japan before, 00:12:27.119 --> 00:12:30.080 uh, but I don't recall anything quite like this. 00:12:30.239 --> 00:12:31.840 You know, markets in Europe and stuff. 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.400 This just has a very full-on look to it. 00:12:34.400 --> 00:12:36.719 And I thought, yeah, maybe you would have seen on your travels. 00:12:36.719 --> 00:12:37.919 But cool. Well done, 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.239 Yoshito, for um capturing this one. 00:12:40.239 --> 00:12:41.440 Yeah, great photo. 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:42.559 Next one, Jason. 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:44.159 My next one is from Mike. 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.679 It's called Goldfish in the Pond. 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.280 And it then says in quotes at home series. 00:12:51.280 --> 00:12:54.640 And uh I think I didn't mention the details on the last photo, 00:12:54.640 --> 00:12:58.479 but this was the Fuji XT5 23mm, 00:12:58.479 --> 00:13:01.200 FI.6 and a quarter second, 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.280 and this is fish in I'm assuming this is at home. 00:13:05.280 --> 00:13:06.719 So this is already I'm like, 00:13:06.719 --> 00:13:09.440 this is an incredibly cool that this is at your house. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:18.799 And I'm kind of not sure if it's like those big goldfish or if this is somehow just normal goldfish in a smaller bowl, 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.159 but we're just so close to it. 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:21.200 I can't. 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.119 I kind of could go either way. 00:13:23.119 --> 00:13:28.799 The rocks on the bottom of this lead me to believe that it is like a bigger outdoor kind of pond. 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:32.479 But the really cool effect here is that it's because it's a quarter of a second, 00:13:32.479 --> 00:13:35.760 everything's very blurred and there's a lot of motion involved here. 00:13:35.760 --> 00:13:38.239 So all the fish are in motion, 00:13:38.239 --> 00:13:39.280 either turning, 00:13:39.280 --> 00:13:41.760 going straight, or kind of swirling around each other. 00:13:41.760 --> 00:13:47.760 So you get that cool like white ghosty feel around them of the fins that aren't really there. 00:13:47.760 --> 00:13:49.840 And there are three orange and two red, 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.599 so they have this cool striking contrast with each other. 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:55.039 The thing that drew me to this, 00:13:55.039 --> 00:14:06.640 because recently I took a photo of of a koi that was orange and just very bright and then when I saw this it just immediately made me think of that so I had to pick this as one of my photos. 00:14:06.640 --> 00:14:16.239 And then there's the the last piece that kind of sticks out to me here is just there's one bubble that is the kind of only thing that is not in motion or being blurred. 00:14:16.239 --> 00:14:19.520 It's just the bubble and then everything else around it is blurred. 00:14:19.520 --> 00:14:24.719 And then of course the very bottom the rocks are still because they are they are obviously not moving in this photo. 00:14:24.719 --> 00:14:35.440 But I I again I'm not sure if this is small goldfish like in a bowl in someone's office or if this is a huge pond in someone's backyard. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:36.559 It's it's hard for me to tell. 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.440 The moment I saw it pop up that you know that you had linked it, 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.039 I thought, of course Jason would love this. 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:42.080 And I love the orange too, 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.520 it's very cool. That bubble, 00:14:43.520 --> 00:14:46.479 you're right though, it's like the sharpest thing in the photo. 00:14:46.479 --> 00:14:48.880 And when you zoom in, I'm thinking like Blade Runner, 00:14:48.880 --> 00:14:50.159 you know, zoom and enhance, 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.559 what am I gonna see about Mike's world in here? 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.200 And you get this impression of maybe some space or something in the room, 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.640 but it's just out of reach. 00:14:56.640 --> 00:15:04.640 So clearly we're not quite to the level of Los Angeles twenty nineteen as we were promised in Blade Runner to reveal my scene within the bubble. 00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:13.280 Yeah. Or or when you I oftentimes you'll take a photo and then you'll go and look at your own photo and then zoom in on something and all you just see yourself the holding the camera and you're like, 00:15:13.280 --> 00:15:15.119 oh okay. Great. 00:15:15.520 --> 00:15:16.880 Didn't really want that in there, 00:15:16.880 --> 00:15:18.400 but okay. That's right, 00:15:18.400 --> 00:15:20.320 that's right. But no, I like this photo too. 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:21.760 I love that it's a square crop. 00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:23.440 I often see that. 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:28.479 I I just have this I suppose habit of associating square crops with that early Instagram period. 00:15:28.479 --> 00:15:31.679 And I don't normally think to do that to my own photos these days, 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:40.559 but then I see a photo like this where it just frames it beautifully and doesn't give too much extra context around the fish. 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:44.400 And I I think for me that's part of what makes it the shape of the photo. 00:15:44.400 --> 00:15:46.159 It just looks really, really nice and balanced. 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:47.840 I can imagine this on someone's wall, 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:49.440 really. Yeah, same. 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:50.479 Really nice. 00:15:50.479 --> 00:15:52.080 Yeah, good spotting. 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:53.359 And well done, Mike. 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:56.239 The next one, I just love this photo. 00:15:56.239 --> 00:15:57.520 It's by Louise. 00:15:57.520 --> 00:16:00.719 Uh it's called The Little Girl and the Donkeys, 00:16:00.719 --> 00:16:03.599 Morocco. It was taken with a Nikon D ninety. 00:16:03.599 --> 00:16:05.119 I said Nikon for your benefit, 00:16:05.119 --> 00:16:06.159 I hope you realize, 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.440 Jason. Does that make you happy? 00:16:08.400 --> 00:16:09.679 Who are you? 00:16:10.400 --> 00:16:12.320 I believe it's pronounced Nikon. 00:16:12.479 --> 00:16:13.679 I just wanted to see if you're like, 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:14.799 what? Come on, 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:16.799 we're inclusive here. All hemispheres, 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.479 uh, as our other show suggests, 00:16:18.479 --> 00:16:20.159 all accents, all pronunciations. 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:25.919 No, this um this is just I just love this picture and that's why I wanted to put it as my third one. 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:27.599 It's this uh little girl, 00:16:27.599 --> 00:16:28.799 as it says in the title, 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:34.000 with some sort of brown headscarf and uh traditional blue outfit of some kind, 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:42.960 basically squatting down between two donkeys in front of some sort of jagged rock wall that's covered in graffiti and spray paint tags. 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.919 And she's looking beyond the frame to her right, 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:51.359 our left, and it just feels kind of like even though it's a totally different photo, 00:16:51.359 --> 00:16:55.039 it kind of feels like what was happening in that Hong Kong photo that I put in there, 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.359 where you can see old and new, 00:16:57.359 --> 00:17:00.000 like where in Morocco is this photo taken? 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:01.520 It's it's very traditional. 00:17:01.520 --> 00:17:06.959 She's got, you know, what ultimately like I don't know the family livestock or transport or pets, 00:17:06.959 --> 00:17:11.199 but it's kind of bordering this graffitied maybe urban or, 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:12.800 you know, newer environment. 00:17:12.800 --> 00:17:14.239 It's just I don't know. 00:17:14.239 --> 00:17:40.800 And the fact that like uh for example my family on my mum's side they came from former Yugoslavia and it wasn't exactly obviously like Morocco but you know there were donkeys there and I remember when we visited on a uh family trip maybe what was it like 10 years ago now you still saw carts and things being dragged by donkeys in these rural areas so I don't know it's just a reminder to me in this photo of the fact that so many people live so differently and traditionally from what I'm used to, 00:17:40.800 --> 00:17:45.839 or you know, what I imagine on my high horse in you know very modernised Western Australia. 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.920 And that's not to put this person down, 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:53.839 it's just you just remember that people have very different ways of life and this Very powerful photo. 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:57.680 I it pff I would expect to see this in a magazine. 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:03.040 Hundred percent. Or something like that, 00:18:03.040 --> 00:18:06.719 because it just it feels so so powerful. 00:18:06.719 --> 00:18:08.239 I I the uh first of all, 00:18:08.239 --> 00:18:10.479 you know, it's got adorable donkeys, 00:18:10.479 --> 00:18:13.359 so cute. Plus a hundred points there. 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:14.400 But the fact that yes, 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.959 they're obviously being used to to carry whatever is in those sacks to somewhere. 00:18:18.959 --> 00:18:20.239 I can't like, 00:18:20.239 --> 00:18:23.040 is this right next to where they're going? 00:18:23.040 --> 00:18:24.719 Is this, you know, 00:18:24.719 --> 00:18:28.160 miles and miles and kilometers away from where they're going? 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:44.400 It makes me think it's probably closer to to where they're going just because again yes there's spray paint all over which was this probably beautiful rock face which is kind of not anymore um you know again contrasted between then you have the donkeys in the front. 00:18:44.800 --> 00:18:46.000 One gray, one brown, 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.280 which is cool. So you kind of have the half and half symmetry thing going on. 00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:52.560 They're almost exactly mirrored from each other, 00:18:52.560 --> 00:18:56.079 which you would think is kind of a staged thing, 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:57.280 but probably not. 00:18:57.280 --> 00:18:59.199 That just happened to be what was going on. 00:18:59.199 --> 00:19:01.280 But the fact that they are literally mirrored, 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:02.560 except their colors are different, 00:19:02.560 --> 00:19:03.680 which is really cool. 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:04.719 Um, and then yes, 00:19:04.719 --> 00:19:09.359 the the the little girl just bent down looking at what I don't know, 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:13.599 but I want to know so bad what is just out of frame. 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:19.599 Which you know that's what great photos do is they make you they make you want to know more and they make you make you wonder. 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:21.760 So excellent photo. 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:23.920 The other thing I just I think is interesting, 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.079 just as a not related maybe to the photo, 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:32.000 is we freak out about gear and and what camera does what or whatever. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.680 And like looking at this photo, 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:39.839 it is impeccable and then you look and this was almost 20 years ago on a D90. 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:50.640 Yeah I didn't mention the date you're absolutely right you wouldn't know that you would just think oh this was probably last week on the latest blah blah blah camera that's got this spec and that spec. 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:52.239 And no, it doesn't. 00:19:52.239 --> 00:19:53.839 And it you don't need it. 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.119 You know, I I think, you know, 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:56.959 we we just get obsessed with this stuff. 00:19:56.959 --> 00:20:03.359 But just another example of great photography has been made since the beginning of cameras. 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.160 Uh, and this is a fine example of that. 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:10.319 Yeah, I really hope that Louise shares exactly how many megapixels were in this file, 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:12.319 because that would make or break my opinion of it. 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:14.800 Yes. 00:20:14.800 --> 00:20:16.800 Where is the megapixel count? 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.040 Exactly. Does it have a flippy screen? 00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:20.160 You know? No, probably not. 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:21.680 Uh the D ninety. 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.199 I don't think it did. It wouldn't have. 00:20:25.280 --> 00:20:27.439 Um but yeah, I just remember I had one, 00:20:27.439 --> 00:20:28.560 but I don't remember the specs. 00:20:28.560 --> 00:20:30.880 That's right, you were a Nikon slash Nikon guy. 00:20:30.959 --> 00:20:34.560 I was, yeah. It's how I kind of started was was with them. 00:20:34.560 --> 00:20:35.680 Beautiful. Yeah, 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:36.800 I just think like you said, 00:20:36.800 --> 00:20:38.800 powerful image, great portrait, 00:20:38.800 --> 00:20:42.479 and wonderful to think about where she may be now. 00:20:42.479 --> 00:20:43.920 And uh what they're doing. 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:46.719 It's just that's the story that we imagine from this photo, 00:20:46.719 --> 00:20:49.119 I imagine. And that person is now twenty years older, 00:20:49.119 --> 00:21:03.040 which is also what are they like imagine if they saw this what would they think who knows uh I'm pretty sure that um on my parents' honeymoon they took a photo of a guy posing proudly with his donkeys in what is now called North Macedonia. 00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:08.560 So it's a thing of you know proud with your with your livestock or your uh family animals. 00:21:08.800 --> 00:21:11.199 Anyway, time for your third and final. 00:21:11.199 --> 00:21:15.119 Third and final. This one is titled Don't Go Down This Road. 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:19.680 And it is written it's part of a collection that is in like a scary font. 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:22.160 I didn't even know you could do different fonts in glass, 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.359 so there you go, learn. 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:31.760 I've seen that too and it freaks me out and I feel like am I some sort of internet or web noob that I don't know like I'm am I total noob that people do this and I go, 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:34.479 What are you doing to cheat the system anyway? 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:45.599 Yeah. Every single thing on the entire page with the exception of the button is black and white, 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.400 which is kind of haunting in a way, 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:50.160 especially with this like weird font. 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:54.479 But anyway, it the photo itself is uh is uh looking down a road, 00:21:54.479 --> 00:21:55.920 it says don't go down this road. 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:57.520 So going down a road, 00:21:57.520 --> 00:22:00.400 it has a a sharp white border around it. 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:05.839 The road itself is almost invisible in terms of the amount of light available. 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:07.599 As we go from the bottom up, 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:12.319 we then reach the the horizon line where we then are seeing this the the sky, 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:14.319 which is a it's it's lighter, 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.319 but it's still very dark gray. 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:18.880 And then the whole left side of it is all very, 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:29.359 very dark trees, so just a lot of high black and white contrast here with telephone or I guess power line poles um following this road as it goes down, 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:34.160 which are also basically completely black um both the polls and the lines. 00:22:34.479 --> 00:22:35.760 The first thing I noticed, 00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:37.040 which has nothing to do with the photo, 00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:38.640 was that it was on my birthday last year, 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.079 so that kind of was like, whoa, 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.400 that makes it even spookier somehow. 00:22:42.800 --> 00:22:44.000 But the photo itself, 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.479 I'm a sucker for these kind of high contrast black and white. 00:22:48.479 --> 00:22:52.560 Um I guess they're not is it liminal space if it's outside? 00:22:52.560 --> 00:23:02.560 Probably not, but just this this sense of no one exists and this is just kind of a capture of a place where people don't belong. 00:23:02.560 --> 00:23:04.160 And I think it's done that very, 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.599 very well. And the the the graininess of it is cool. 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:08.800 It's on a Fujifilm, 00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:10.479 so it's you know it's a digital camera, 00:23:10.479 --> 00:23:27.599 but it has that kind of film grainy look to it um from whatever the effects are that was added you know the editing that was done with the black and white so yeah Fuji XT50 on a 15 to 45 at 31 millimeters Just a really a really cool photo. 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:34.560 I think don't go down this road is uh I think that's a a good title for for this road that goes seemingly into nowhere. 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.760 Yes, and thank you for the warning because I won't be going down this road. 00:23:37.760 --> 00:23:39.760 I think you're right though, even if it's outside, 00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:42.719 like maybe you would normally say liminal space for an indoor thing, 00:23:42.719 --> 00:23:47.599 but I think a similar word or one that's based on the idea of liminal space is a non place, 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:48.880 in the sense that Oh, 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.839 okay. Almost like motorways, 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.119 for example. You only pass through a motorway or a freeway. 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.959 It's it's hostile to humans. 00:23:56.959 --> 00:23:59.520 You can't stop. It's not a place that you actually go to. 00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:01.280 It's only a place you travel through. 00:24:01.280 --> 00:24:02.640 So this isn't exactly the same, 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:06.560 but it's the sense of eerie and creepy stuff aside. 00:24:06.560 --> 00:24:07.839 You're not just standing there, 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:09.040 you don't visit this place, 00:24:09.040 --> 00:24:11.040 you only move through it or avoid it. 00:24:11.040 --> 00:24:14.239 So it's almost like a place that is a non-place. 00:24:14.560 --> 00:24:16.959 I love it. Yeah, I think that's a perfect description. 00:24:16.959 --> 00:24:19.040 This is a non place. 00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:21.920 Yeah, it's like I'll just turn around. 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.520 I won't stay there. Yep. 00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:27.359 Yeah. But uh do you take many black and white photos like this? 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:28.400 Like you say you like them, 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:29.520 but you do it yourself. 00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:31.040 Not very often. 00:24:31.040 --> 00:24:33.839 Not as often as I probably should. 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:41.119 I I find that I only really if I if I switch the camera into a black and white mode, 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:42.160 that helps me a lot. 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:48.239 I have a lot of problem taking a photo in color and imagining that as black and white. 00:24:48.239 --> 00:24:51.520 Sure. But if I'm taking it as black and white, 00:24:51.520 --> 00:24:54.000 then I can get better into that mindset. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.359 But I I don't do it a ton. 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:56.640 I d do you? 00:24:56.719 --> 00:24:59.760 Uh I I can really empathize with what you're saying. 00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:12.319 It's similar. You know when you see videos like about uh lyker monochrome cameras or Pentax or something where they are monochromatic only and they do certain things with the dynamic range or the black point and stuff, 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:16.880 which is true black and white because they're not removing colour from those filters or whatever. 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.000 I feel like if you photograph things with a camera like that, 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.839 or as you say, you just apply black and white as a mode on your camera. 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:26.479 It feels more purposeful or you can actually see it. 00:25:26.479 --> 00:25:30.560 To me, maybe it's not so much the issue of imagining what it might be like in black and white, 00:25:30.560 --> 00:25:33.119 it's more that the moment I've seen it in colour, 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:38.640 I feel this bizarre thing that if I convert it to black and white and particularly export it or lose that data, 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.239 that it's it's data loss. 00:25:40.239 --> 00:25:45.680 Like I've lost the the temperature or the colour of the outfit that someone was wearing, 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.760 or you know, what was the colour or the impression of the plants in the background? 00:25:49.760 --> 00:25:51.599 So I think if you take something, 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.479 as you say, in in a monochromatic setting, 00:25:54.479 --> 00:25:59.760 it almost feels like it's been made for that and that you're not robbing it of something that was there. 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.000 I'm just I've grown up in a colour environment, 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.280 and so I feel that loss, 00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:05.040 which might be ridiculous to some people. 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:06.880 But then I see the photo and I go, 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.119 oh, that's cool. It should be black and white. 00:26:09.199 --> 00:26:10.319 Yeah. Yeah. 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.640 Because I I I haven't seen the colour version of this if there is one, 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.479 but I'd be willing to put money that this is the one I would prefer. 00:26:18.479 --> 00:26:20.079 Yeah, if it were in color you'd probably go, 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:21.680 yeah, I'd visit that place. That'll be all right. 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.199 Yeah. 00:26:23.199 --> 00:26:25.359 I don't think it would be called Scary Village. 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:26.719 I'll I'll just say that. No, 00:26:26.719 --> 00:26:29.680 it would be uh power poles worth visiting briefly. 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:33.520 Yeah. There you go. 00:26:33.520 --> 00:26:36.000 Well look at that. We we pulled off an episode. 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:39.040 Three times two and that's it. 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:40.719 Love your work. Thanks for joining me, 00:26:40.719 --> 00:26:41.839 Jason. And thanks for listening, 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.880 everyone. Thanks, Martin. 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.239 Thanks, everybody's with the photos. 00:26:44.239 --> 00:26:46.880 Again, look at the show notes to actually see the photos. 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.800 I'm sure that's something you probably want to do. 00:26:48.800 --> 00:26:52.640 And we will see you all the next time we release an episode. 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:57.520 That's right. Catch you next time.